Thin Lizzy Family Tree

Metal Family Tree

This is a project aimed at making it easy to see who inspired the bands you love or even hate. For this I try not to use any influences that the band don’t claim themselves. There will be a focus on predecessors but successors will be added as they site the band. These trees become more and more interactive as new bands are added, allowing you to click any band that has a tree and jump to it.

We want our lists to be better. If you know something that belongs on this list, let us know. When in doubt we will leave it out, so we need reliable sources.

Thin Lizzy are a very influential rock / hard rock band. They even occasionally dabbled in heavy metal. Phil Lynott was the bassist and vocalist as well as at differing times being the primary writer. Him and drummer Brian Downey were the only consistent members that lasted until the death of Phil in 1983. Since that time the band has remained active essentially as a tribute band. Because Phil died young some of his influences will be from second hand sources as original sources are limited, but the difference will be noted.
Starting with the first album the band consisted of Phil, Brian, and guitarist Eric Bell for their first three albums. After that time the band switched to a four piece consisting of Scott Gorham on guitar, who has been the only consistent member since that time, and on second guitar was Brian Robertson for five studio albums. Gary Moore was in for one album, and Snowy White was then in the band for two. Finally John Sykes filled the second guitar role for the final Thin Lizzy album. The final two albums also saw an additional role in the band with Darren Wharton on keyboard.

Note: I’ve seen several guitar player mention that they didn’t receive as many writing credits as they probably deserved, some more bitter about it than others. Each have some credits to them though.

Phase One

Phase one of Thin Lizzy consists of the first three albums on which the band played as a three piece with Eric Bell.

 

Django Reinhardt

Django Reinhardt was a gypsy jazz player known for only having two fingers. Eric and Gary both named him as an influence.

Max Roach

Max Roach was an important jazz drummer. Downey named him as a favorite drummer.

Buddy Rich

Buddy Rich was an influential jazz drummer. Downey named him as one of his favorites.

Elvin Jones

Elvin Jones was a prolific jazz drummer with not only his only band, but worked extensively with the likes of John Coltrane. Downey named him as a favorite drummer.

Elvis has been dubbed the king of rock and roll. He is said to be an influence on Phil

Roy Orbison

Roy Orbison was a country, rock, pop singer best known for some of his pop and rock hits. He is said to have been an influence on Phil

The Shadows were the backing band of Cliff Richards and would eventually be an instrumental rock band. Eric and Gary both named Hank Marvin as his first influence. Snowy named them as the first band he was listening to before hearing Clapton.

Wes Montgomery

Wes Montgomery was a jazz guitarist named by Eric as an influence.

Curtis Mayfield

Curtis Mayfield was a huge influence on soul. Phil named the song “Move On Up” as an influence.

Joe Pass was a jazz guitarist who collaborated with many other notable jazz players. Eric named him as an influence.

The Beatles are one of the most important bands and lead rock ‘n’ roll into the rock of a new generation. Phil covered them in previous bands. He named the white album as an inspiration to him. They are an influence of Downey’s, and Scott is a huge fan. Gary named George Harrison as an influence.

The Animals was a blues based rock band. Phil named their version of “House of the Rising Sun” as an influence.

The Yardbirds had a slew of important guitar players come out of the band, such as Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page. Eric named them as an influence. Gary named Jeff Beck with the Yardbirds as an influence.

Johnny Kid and The Pirates

Johnny Kid and The Pirates were a British Rock ‘n’ Roll Band. Eric named them as a influence.

The Kinks where a rock band he receive a lot of credit for the distortion on their hit “You Really Got Me”. Downey named them as an influence.

The Mamas & The Papas were a folk/pop band. They are said to have been an influence on Phil

The Rolling Stones are among the biggest bands to come out of the 60’s Downey named them as an influence. Scott is a huge fan.

Jimi Hendrix is one of the most revolutionary and influential guitarists of his day. He is said to have ben an influence on Phil. Gary also named Hendrix as an influence.

Van Morrison

Van Morrison is a multi genre singer / songwriter / musician. Phil named their “Astral Weeks” album as a big influence and named Van Morrison as his biggest vocal influence.

Jeff Beck is one of the early guitar legends with his Jeff Beck Group. Phil named their album Beck-Ola as an influence. In particular he named Rod Stewart as a vocal influence and said he thought Stewart’s voice had really improved for this album. Scott is a huge fan.

Sly and The Family Stone were a Soul / Funk group. Phil was a fan.

Billy Cobham was an influential jazz and progressive rock drummer. Downey named him as a favorite.

Heads, Hands, & Feet were a British country rock band. Phil named Chas Hodges as an influence on his bass playing.

Phase Two

Phase Two of Thin Lizzy saw a change from a three piece band to a four piece with two guitar players. This phase consists of Scott Gorham on guitar along side guitarists Brian Robertson for five studio albums, Gary Moore was in for one album, and Snowy White for another two.

B. B. King is a blues great. Robertson named him as a player he admires. Gary also names him as an influence.

Freddie King

Freddie King was a blues player influential to electric blues. Gary name him as an influence. I’ve seen him mentioned as an influence on Robertson, but I haven’t been able to corroborate that.

Otis Rush

Otis Rush was an influential blues player. Gary named him as an influence.

Dick Dale

Dick Dale was an important surf rock guitarist. Scott named him as his first guitar influence.

Albert King

Albert King was an influential blues player. Gary named him as an influence.

John McLaughlin

John McLaughlin is an influential jazz player. Gary name him as an influence.

Albert Collins

Albert Collins was an influential blues player. Gary named him as an influence.

John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers are an important blues / blues rock band featuring many important players. Gary named Eric Clapton Peter Green, and Mick Taylor with John Mayall as influences. Snowy said when he first hear Clapton with John Mayall that was what he wanted to play like.

Fleetwood Mac were a blues based rock band. Scott said he is a big fan and their stuff with Peter Green

Free were a blues based rock band. Scott named Paul Kossoff as an influence.

ZZ Top are a big blues rock band. Robertson said he was a big fan after discovering them on tour through Texas.

Return to Forever were a jazz fusion band. Gary named Bill Connors as an influence.

Rush are an influential progressive hard rock band. Downey named Neil Peart as a favorite drummer although Thin Lizzy was active prior to rush or Neil’s joining of the band.

Vinnie Colaiuta

Vinnie Colaiuta is a prolific drummer and had a long career with Frank Zappa. Downey named him as a favorite although he was playing with Thin Lizzy nearly a decade before Vinnie was known.

Phase Three

Phase Three of Thin Lizzy like phase two adds a change in the band structure with the addition of keyboardist Darren Wharton. He joins for the final two Lizzy albums, and is a prominent writer on the final. The final album again sees a change in the second guitar spot, adding John Sykes. John, previously in Tygers of Pan Tang, was quite a bit younger than other guitarists of the band and his influence reflect that of a younger generation.

 

Ritchie Blackmore

Ritchie Blackmore is a hugely influential guitarist of Deep Purple and Rainbow fame. John named him as an influence.

Pink Floyd are one of the more well known progressive rock bands. Darren named them as an influence.

Genesis were a big progressive rock band. Darren is a fan.

Led Zeppelin are one of the most important hard rock bands to exist. John named Jimmy Page as an influence.

UFO are an important hard rock band. John named guitarist Michael Schenker as an influence.

Steely Dan were a soft rock / Rock band. Darren named them as an influence.

Scorpions were among the earliest heavy metal bands and teetered between hard rock and heavy metal over the years. John named Uli Roth as an influence as well as Michael Schenker who filled the same lead guitar spot in the band a different times. In particular he named Virgin Killer and Taken By Force, both Uli albums.

John named Gary Moore (yes, previously also of Thin Lizzy) as an influence on him.

 

In previous bands Phil played covers from The Beatles, The Byrds, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan, Free, and Jeff Beck.

Phil mentioned Slade having great live shows when they toured together. He didn’t specifically mention their music as an influence, but praised their state performance.

Brian Downey’s earliest influence was from his dad who was the drummer in a local pipe band when he was younger and was a lover of jazz. He said back then all he had was radio which played Irish jig music, dance bands, plus a little pop and also crooners. He also had an older cousin who lived with them and through heard country and western. He first wanted to play after hearing stuff like Elvis Presley, Billy Fury, Cliff Richard, The Shadows, Hank Williams. Then there was the Beatles which had a big impact.

Eric is influenced by Jeff Beck according to Downy. Eric didn’t name him directly, but did name the Yardbirds.

Eric says he first fell in love with music listening to classical music as a kid. He said eh first wanted to play guitar after hearing Lonnie Donegan. He also said he is influenced by some Rockabilly.

Scott’s real love of music came from the British invasion, so much so it was the reason he moved there.

Brian Robertson first began as a classically trained pianist for eight years before picking up guitar. He says he’s not a fan of flashy players like Hendrix. He mentions being a fan of ZZ Top, after discovering on tour in through Texas. He said he admires guys like B. B. King. I have seen other blues guitarists as his influences, but have not been able to corroborate them.

Gary named some favorite songs which are all songs by his noted influences with the exception of “Sarah” from the first Thin Lizzy album.

Darren was classically trained on piano as a kid.

John said Think Lizzy was one of his all time favorite bands prior to joining them.

 

Bands influenced by Thin Lizzy!

As this project advances, bands will be added here… there are many!

Hard Rock and Heavy Metal Legends

New Wave of British Heavy Metal

New Wave of British Heavy Metal

One of Heavy Metal’s most influential

Bay Area Heavy Metal

Heavy Metal

The Fathers of Thrash

Bay Area Thrash Legends

Dio needs introduction, several of his guitar players were influenced by Lizzy

Father of Power Metal

Thrash Legends

Thrashers

Grindcore to Death Metal to Melodic Death

Melodic Death Pioneers

Power Metallers

Nu Metal then more Alternative Metal

Keyboard laden Heavy Metal

eclectic heavy metal with a melodic death root

 

Sources:

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/1353355/Phil-Lynott-Thin-Lizzy-influences-Elvis-Presley-Jimi-Hendrix-Van-Morrison-Phil-Lynott-doc
https://www.loudersound.com/features/phil-lynott-birth-of-a-legend
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https://www.psychedelicbabymag.com/2022/11/thin-lizzy-eric-bell-interview.html
http://www.thinlizzy.org/brian_d.html
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https://www.loudersound.com/features/scott-gorham-and-brian-downey-life-with-thin-lizzy-and-the-phil-lynott-we-knew
https://glidemagazine.com/234573/scott-gorham-of-black-star-riders-and-thin-lizzy-shares-stories-on-lynott-kossoff-new-lp-interview/
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http://rockandrollgarage.com/guitarist-gary-moore-and-the-13-musicians-that-inspired-him-the-most/
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/gary-moore-favourite-songs/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osWvZX3ZzNc
https://www.rockpages.gr/dare/
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https://www.metalexpressradio.com/2008/01/28/interview-with-john-sykes-thin-lizzy/

Uriah Heep Family Tree

Metal Family Tree

This is a project aimed at making it easy to see who inspired the bands you love or even hate. For this I try not to use any influences that the band don’t claim themselves. There will be a focus on predecessors but successors will be added as they site the band. These trees become more and more interactive as new bands are added, allowing you to click any band that has a tree and jump to it.

We want our lists to be better. If you know something that belongs on this list, let us know. When in doubt we will leave it out, so we need reliable sources.

Uriah Heep have had a long career. Their sound is not without evolution but generally they might be categorized as Progressive Hard Rock. In the early days they even dabbled in Early Heavy Metal along side some of the earliest of the genera. Although some members have had very long stints in the band, guitarist Mick Box is the only member to be in the band since the beginning. David Byron was the vocalist for the early albums. He was co-founder along with Mick and remained in the band till 1976; he shared in at least some writing credits on every album but his last. Ken Hensley with Uriah Heep through 1980. He played keyboard, guitar, did backing vocals and occasional lead. He was a primary contributor to the writing and on some albums wrote nearly everything. Lee Kerslake was on drums starting on their 4th album and remained one of the longest running members of the band with writing credits on most albums. In 1976 Trevor Bolder joined on bass and was a contributing member for his very long stay in the band.
At a time there was a big line-up shift in Urhia heep following the return of Lee after his stint with Ozzy. Lee and Mick were joined by Bob Daisley on bass, John Sinclair on keys, and Peter Goalby on vocals this line up would do two albums before it began to change again with Trevor returning for what would have been the third. This line up would all contribute to writing during that time.
Following that line up, vocalist Bernie Shaw and keyboardist Phil Lanzon joined for their 1989 album Raging Silence. They have remained in the band ever since. In that time Bernie only has two writing credits, but Lanzon became a prominent writer.

Phase one

Phase one of Uriah Heep is marked by the the time The time David Byron was on vocals

 

Django Reinhardt

Django Reinhardt was a jazz guitarist famed for his gypsy jazz style. Mick named him as an influence.

Les Paul and Mary Ford

Les Paul and Mary Ford were a husband wife duo playing a jazzy country/wester pop mix. Mick named them as an influence.

Tal Farlow

Tal Farlow was a talented jazz guitarist. Mick named him as an influence.

Barney Kessel

Barney Kessel was a very prolific jazz guitarist. Mick named him as an influence.

Bill Haley and His Comets

Bill Haley was one of the earliest adopters of rock ‘n’ roll. Ken named him as an influence.

Eddie Cochran

Eddie Cochran was an early rock ‘n’ roller. Mick named him as the hard edge Buddy Holly as well as an influence. David also said he liked Eddie.

The Everly Brothers were a rock ‘n’ roll duo known for their vocal harmonization. David named them as one of his favorites.

Buddy Holly

Buddy Holly was at the tail end of the rock ‘n’ roll era, tragically dying in a play crash. Mick named the orchestration on “True Loves Ways” as an influence. David said he also liked Buddy Holly.

Ray Charles

Ray Charles was the pioneer of soul music. David said he liked him and was likely influenced by him.

Billy “Crash” Craddock

Billy Craddock was a poppy country / rockabilly singer. Ken named him as an influence.

Wes Montgomery

Wes Montgomery was a jazz player with a playing style of his own. Mick named him as an influence.

Johnny Kidd & The Pirates

Johnny Kidd & The Pirates were late English rock ‘n’ roll band. Mick named “Shakin’ All Over” as one of the songs that got him into playing guitar.

John McLaughlin

John McLaughlin is an influential jazz player and jazz fusion pioneer. Mick named him along side the others on Friday night In San Francisco as taking guitar to a whole new level.

Paco de Lucía

Paco de Lucía was a renown flamenco guitarist. Mick named him along side the others on Friday night In San Francisco as taking guitar to a whole new level.

Them was a 60’s British rock band. Mick said seeing them live with singer Van Morrison was a big reason he picked up guitar.

The Kinks were a big deal for advancing a harder sound in rock with their hit “Your Really Got Me” Mick said they were an inspiration.

Small Faces were a British rock band. The had an influence on Mick, he said him and David copied their look after seeing them.

The Who brought rock in a harder direction. Ken said seeing them got him into harder rock. Trevor said there was bit of influence from John Entwistle.

Vanilla Fudge were an important psychedelic rock band. Mick said they influenced them to incorporate the hammond organ. Lee named Drummer Carmine Appice as an influence.

The move was rock based band changing style a bit as they progressed. Mick is a fan.

Jeff Beck is considered one of the best guitar players to come out of the 60’s. Mick said if he had a guitar hero, it would be Jeff Beck. Lee named drummer Cozy Powell. Ronnie Wood was one of Bob’s favorite players.

Led Zeppelin are fathers of hard rock and hugely important. David said he liked them and probably drew some influence from them. Lee named Bonham as an influence. Bob named Led Zeppelin as an influence

Al Di Meola

Al Di Meola is a very influential jazz player. Mick named him along side the others on Friday night In San Francisco as taking guitar to a whole new level.

Phase One 1/2

Phase 1/2 continues following Uriah Heep’s fourth album with the addition of drummer Lee Kerslake as well as two stints on bass from Gary Thain, and John Welton, both of who’s influences are unknown.

Buddy Rich

When discussing drumming greats, Buddy Rich is bound to come up. He was a big band / swing drummer still known as one of the best. Lee named him as an influence and said he liked playing big band stuff.

Aynsley Dunbar

Aynsley Dunbar was a drummer for many bands, notably John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers and Frank Zappa. Lee named him as an influence.

Deep Purple were and an important early hard rock band and later heavy metal dabblers. Deep Purple were not directly named and although older might be considered more of peers to Uriah Heep, but Lee named drummer Ian Paice as an influence for which he is best known for his time in Deep Purple. Rather or not Lee was familiar with Ian’s previous work is unknown, but the two bands also toured together early on and Lee could have taken influence during that time affecting his later playing.

Cozy Powell has played for many band including some already on this list such as the Jeff Beck Group and later played in Rainbow. He is one of Lee’s influences.

Phase Two

Phase two of Uriah Heep is marked by the departure of David Byron replaced by Lucifer’s Friend vocalist John Lawton. It is also marked by the joining of Trevor Bolder on bass. It adds additional influence new to the mix.

Sonny Boy Williamson

Sonny Boy Williamson was a blues singer / harmonica player. Trevor named him when talking about his blues influence.

The band that really kicked of rock music after the rock ‘n’ roll era was The Beatles. They was Trevor’s inspiration to play rock music. He said his main influence on bass did not come from McCartney, but later stated there might be a bit of influence. Bob named Paul McCartney as an influence. Peter also named them as an influence.

Cream are an important psychedelic blues rock band. Trevor named Jack Bruce as a huge influence and said he would play along with all of his records. He first saw him playing with Graham Bond and Ginger Baker prior to the formation of Cream, but was blown away by his work with Cream. Jack Bruce was one of Bob’s favorite players.

John Mayall’s blues band at one time featured John McVie on bass which Trevor named as an influence. Lee named Aynsley Dunbar as an influence.

Phase 3

This is phase is marked by the return of Lee on drums after his time with Ozzy and the addition of Bob Daisley on bass, John Sinclair on keys, and Peter Goalby on vocals. It adds additional influence new to the mix.

James Jamerson was a session bassists for many Motown bands. He is one of Bob’s influences.

Dusty Springfield was a soul/pop singer. Peter named her as an influence.

Tom Jones

Tom Jones was a popular singer. Peter named him as an influence.

The Walker Brothers

The Walker Brothers were a 60’s pop group. Peter named them as an influence.

The Nice were a progressive rock band featuring keyboardist Keith Emerson of Emerson, Lake, & Palmer fame. John Sinclair named them as an influence.

Jethro Tull were progressive rock known for their front man playing the flute. Bob named them as an influence.

Yes were an influential progressive rock band. John Sinclair and Phil Lanzon named them as an influence.

King Crimson were an important progressive rock band. John Sinclair named them as an influence.

Faces was a blues rock band with at one time Ronnie Lane on bass who was an influence on Bob.

Bassists Boz Burrell of the rock band Bad Company was an influence of Bob.

Jaco Pastorius was a jazz bassist who besides his solo work also was in the jazz fusion band Weather Report. He is a favorite of Bob.

Phase 4

Phase 4 begins with the addition of Brian Shaw on vocals, and Phil Lanzon on keyboards.

Uriah Heep became an influence on itself as Phil said he draws inspiration from older Uriah Heep when writing new material.

Styx was progressive rock band later more pop rock. Phil named them as an inspiration.

Journey started as a progressive rock band and later was popular to more pop rock / arena rock songs. Phil named them as an inspiration.

Genesis is an influential progressive rock band. Phil named them as an influence.

Mick first guitar guitar teacher Allan Hodgkins played second to Django Reinhardt.

David says he liked 50’s and 60’s rock ‘n’ roll. He said he didn’t model himself after anyone in particular, but all things things he liked probably had subconscious influence.

Bassist Paul Newton was on the first few albums with writing credits on the first. I’m unsure of his influences.

Ken named Elvis as making him want to play music and named Cliff Richard as someone he listened to early on. He said in his first few bands he the guys he played with got him more into blues.

Mark Clarke was bassist for Demons and Wizards and had one co-writing credit. Otherwise he didn’t have significant influence on the sound of Uriah Heep, so I won’t include his influences here.

Gary Thain was on bass for four albums and had writing credits on 3 of the 4. I’m unsure of his influences.

John Wetton was on bass for two albums with co-writing credits on two songs. His influences are not noted here as his time and contributions to the band was minimal.

A musician named Jack Williams wrote some songs for and with Mick an a couple albums, but was never part of the band.

John Lawton formerly of Lucifer’s Friend fame, sung on three albums but has minimal writing credits. (his influences will be covered under Lucifer’s Friend if that tree is ever made)

Trevor Bolder started with brass instruments like trumpet and played in brass bands as a kid before discovering The Beatles. After that him and his brothers were inspired to start a rock band and he picked up bass guitar. His bass influence primarily didn’t come from The Beatles, but from blues players and mainly the of 30’s and 40’s. He notably played with David Bowie for several albums. Two of songs Trevor brought to the band were co-written with Pete McDonald whom was not a member of the band but a musical associate of Trevor.

Bob learned to play bass by playing along to his sister’s rock and roll albums from The Everly Brothers, Buddy Holly, Gene Vincent, Eddie Cochran, Ricky Nelson, and Elvis. Later there was The Beatles and Rolling Stones. (citation for Bob’s influences are linked on Ozzy’s family Tree)

John Sinclair played keyboard for three albums and has writing credits on each. He says he has a classical influence but doesn’t name specifics. He also named progressive rock in general with some more specific bands which are noted above.

Bernie Shaw has been on vocals since 1989, but has contributed little to writing. He mentions singing to The Beatles, Cream, and The Kinks as a kid.

Phil Lanzon began piano lessons at 8 years old. He says he had classical influence. He doesn’t name specifics. Phil studied harmony, counterpoint and composition at the Guildhall school of Music and Drama. He says he always draws influence from Uriah Heep when writing new material, but was not into Uriah Heep before joining.

Simon J. Pinto is a session musician who has writing credits on 2023’s Chaos and Colour. He did not perform on the album though, and I’m unsure in what capacity who wrote as he plays multiple instruments.

 

Bands influenced by Uriah Heep!

As this project advances, bands will be added here… there are many!

New Wave of British Heavy Metal

German Metal Masters

New Wave of British Heavy Metal

Metal Masters

Danish Thrash Metal

Important Progressive Metal

Fathers of Power Metal

Influential Black Metal

Symphonic Pioneers

Sources:

https://www.musicradar.com/news/uriah-heeps-mick-box-i-try-to-stay-away-from-the-scales-and-just-go-with-my-heart
https://www.loudersound.com/features/uriah-heeps-mick-box-10-records-that-changed-my-life
https://defendersofthefaithmetal.com/mick-box-uriah-heep-interview/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MCatj1h9jw
(A Ken
Hensly 2016 radio interview was previously on youtube, but has since been removed)
https://bobdaisley.com/interview/the-fuze-lee-kerslake#:~:text=My%20major%20influence%20was%20John,really%20get%20on%20the%20beat.
https://dmme.net/interviews/bolder
https://vwmusicrocks.com/2021/11/22/an-interview-with-peter-goalby-of-trapeze-uriah-heep/#:~:text=Who%20were%20some%20of%20your,Walker%20Brothers%2C%20and%20The%20Beatles.
https://50gigsinaday.home.blog/interviews/interview-with-john-sinclair-uriah-heepozzy/
https://dmme.net/interviews/shaw
https://www.thegreatfroglondon.com/us/blog/interview-uriah-heeps-phil-lanzon/
https://www.phillanzonwordsandmusic.com/about#:~:text=Lanzon%20married%2C%20started%20a%20family,direction%20he%20would%20head%20towards.
https://bobdaisley.com/interview/the-fuze-lee-kerslake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRIPJYR6hSQ&t=249s

AC/DC Family Tree

Metal Family Tree

This is a project aimed at making it easy to see who inspired the bands you love or even hate. For this I try not to use any influences that the band don’t claim themselves. There will be a focus on predecessors but successors will be added as they site the band. These trees become more and more interactive as new bands are added, allowing you to click any band that has a tree and jump to it.

We want our lists to be better. If you know something that belongs on this list, let us know. When in doubt we will leave it out, so we need reliable sources.

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AC/DC are probably the most quintessential hard rock band. Their strait forward hard hitting rock style has made them super popular and influential. At the heart of the band has always been brothers Malcom and Angus Young on guitars until the death of Malcom in 2014 at which time nephew Stevie Young stepped in. Bon Scott was on vocals for the first 7 albums before his death. Brian Johnson then appeared on every album since. Music has always been written by Malcom and Angus with respective singers until the 90’s at which time everything is written by Malcom and Angus. Unfortunately I have had defaulting finding Bon and Brian’s influences and any help is welcome.

 
 

Muddy Waters

Muddy Waters is a very influential blues player.  He is one of the blues guys that Angus is a big fan of.

Muddy Waters is a very influential blues player. He is one of the blues guys that Angus is a big fan of.

 

John Lee Hooker

John Lee Hooker was a blues player known for his rhythm style. He was an influence on Angus

John Lee Hooker was a blues player known for his rhythm style. He was an influence on Angus

Elmore James

Elmore James was a blues player.  Angus named him as an influence.

Elmore James was a blues player. Angus named him as an influence.

Little Richard is one of the original rock ‘n’ rollers. Malcolm said he use to play the rhythms of his piano parts.  According to Angus, Little Richard was Bon’s biggest idol.

Little Richard is one of the original rock ‘n’ rollers. Malcolm said he use to play the rhythms of his piano parts. According to Angus, Little Richard was Bon’s biggest idol.

Chuck Berry

Chuck Berry is among the most important and iconic rock ‘n’ roll guitarists.  Angus named him as an influence.

Chuck Berry is among the most important and iconic rock ‘n’ roll guitarists. Angus named him as an influence.

Freddie King

Freddie King was another blues player Angus named as an influence.

Freddie King was another blues player Angus named as an influence.

The Yardbirds had some of the most important guitar players of their time get their start with the band including Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck, and Eric Clapton.  Malcolm named The Yardbirds as an influence.

The Yardbirds had some of the most important guitar players of their time get their start with the band including Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck, and Eric Clapton. Malcolm named The Yardbirds as an influence.

The Kinks were were a 60’s rock band probably best known for their song “You Really Got Me”.  Malcom named them as an influence.

The Kinks were were a 60’s rock band probably best known for their song “You Really Got Me”. Malcom named them as an influence.

The Rolling Stones were a huge blues based rock band. Malcolm named them as an influence.

The Rolling Stones were a huge blues based rock band. Malcolm named them as an influence.

John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers is an often cited band. It tends to be mostly because of period that Eric Clapton was on guitar. Malcolm named Clapton’s work with the Bluesbreakers as an influence.

John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers is an often cited band. It tends to be mostly because of period that Eric Clapton was on guitar. Malcolm named Clapton’s work with the Bluesbreakers as an influence.

Malcolm said him and Angus were playing guitar as kids before The Beatles. At the time they tried to play some instrumental surf music on an old acoustic.

The famous duck walk done on stage by Angus comes inspired by Chuck Berry.

Angus’s rock ‘n’ roll influences came first and he later got more into blues guys.

Angus would learn a lot from his brother Malcolm.

Angus isn’t a fan of Clapton. He says “even on a bad night Chuck Berry is a lot better than Clapton will ever be.  Clapton just sticks licks together that he has taken from other people – like B B King and the other old blues players—and puts them together in some mish-mashed fashion." The only great album he ever made was the Blues Breaker album he did with John Mayall and maybe a couple of good songs he did with Cream. The guy more or less built his reputation on that. I never saw what the big fuss was about Clapton to begin with.” He said he wasn’t a fan of Eddie Van Halen and said “Malcolm’s still a better guitarist than Eddie Van Halen.  Van Halen certainly knows his scales, but I don’t enjoy listening to very technical guitarists who cram all the notes they know into one song.  I mean, Van Halen can do what he does very well, but he’s really just doing finger exercises. If a guitarist wants to practice all the notes he can play, he should do it at home. There’s definitely a place for that type of playing, but it’s not in front of me.” He said he saw Deep Purple and wasn’t a big fan. He said they were the poor man’s Led Zeppelin and called Led Zeppelin a poor imitation of The Who. Angus is very much an old school guy into Chuck Berry and old blues players. On the other hand he says Jeff Beck who is very technical knows how to rock and roll when he wants to. Angus says he was a fan of the early stuff he did with Rod Stewart. He said “Jumping Jack Flash” and “Street Fighting Man” from The Rolling Stones were the last progresses in a positive direction for Rock ‘n’ Roll. He’s not a fan of punk either.

Clapton and Hendrix are often miss cited as an influence on Angus. It comes from an interview where the context is him saying that they use blues techniques similar to Freddie King which he was influenced by.

Angus is a fan of Jerry Lee Lewis and said if he played piano he’d probably perform like him.

Bands influenced by AC/DC!

As this project advances, bands will be added here… there are many!

 
NWOBHM

NWOBHM

 
Influential NWOBHM

Influential NWOBHM

The pioneers of extreme metal.

The pioneers of extreme metal.

Fathers of Thrash

Fathers of Thrash

Heavy Metal from the Bay Area

Heavy Metal from the Bay Area

American Heavy Metal

American Heavy Metal

German Thrash and first wave black metal

German Thrash and first wave black metal

German Heavy / Speed / Power Metal

German Heavy / Speed / Power Metal

FUCKIN’ SLAYER!!!!

FUCKIN’ SLAYER!!!!

German fathers of Power Metal

German fathers of Power Metal

German Speed, Power, and more

German Speed, Power, and more

Thrash Legends

Thrash Legends

Phoenix Thrashers

Phoenix Thrashers

Classic Death Metal

One of the biggest of Death Metal

One of the biggest of Death Metal

A Death Metal Classic

A Death Metal Classic

Fathers of Groove

Fathers of Groove

Industrial groove

Industrial groove

Heavy/Power/Speed from Germany

Heavy/Power/Speed from Germany

Forerunners of New Wave Thrash

Forerunners of New Wave Thrash

An eclectic metal band rooted in Melodic Death

Sources:

https://earofnewt.com/2016/08/14/that-time-acdcs-malcolm-told-me-that-his-biggest-influences-were-the-old-rockers-and-early-clapton/
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/8039617/acdc-malcom-young-interview-2003-death
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byfweknh6Po
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcGAScb_woY
https://destroyerofharmony.com/2013/04/24/angus-young-guitar-world-march-1986-part-1/
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/angus_young_explains_major_guitar_struggle_as_beginner_recalls_brutal_acdc_shows_at_clubs_worse_than_toilets.html
https://www.loudersound.com/features/acdc-interview-angus-young-and-bon-scott-on-booze-sex-and-rocknroll
http://bravewords.com/news/ac-dc-guitarist-angus-young-remembers-bon-scott-when-i-think-back-in-hindsight-he-was-a-guy-that-i-always-knew-was-full-of-life

Led Zeppelin Family Tree

Metal Family Tree

This is a project aimed at making it easy to see who inspired the bands you love or even hate. For this I try not to use any influences that the band don’t claim themselves. There will be a focus on predecessors but successors will be added as they site the band. These trees become more and more interactive as new bands are added, allowing you to click any band that has a tree and jump to it.

We want our lists to be better. If you know something that belongs on this list, let us know. When in doubt we will leave it out, so we need reliable sources.

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Easily one of the most important bands in rock history. Led Zeppelin may not be a metal band but they are as important as any band when it comes to influencing early metal bands. If Black Sabbath are the fathers of Heavy Metal, Led Zeppelin is like the cool uncle or something. Zeppelin had a consistent line up of members who all contributed to the writing so we will look into all of their influences. For the late John Bonham I will use non primary sources because of his early death. I feel like there are probably things missing from this list if anyone has good sources to share please do. With LZ being in trouble for not giving proper credits I can image why they may be less than forth coming about some influences whom they might have “borrowed” from.

 

Big Joe Williams

Big Joe Williams was a delta blues player.  Plant names him as one of the guys he was listening to when he was young.  LZ would go on to cover “Baby, Please Don’t Go” which was first popularized by Big Joe.

Big Joe Williams was a delta blues player. Plant names him as one of the guys he was listening to when he was young. LZ would go on to cover “Baby, Please Don’t Go” which was first popularized by Big Joe.

Son House

Son House was a another delta blues player whom Plant was listening to when he was young.

Son House was a another delta blues player whom Plant was listening to when he was young.

Bukka White

Bukka White was another delta blues player whom Plant was listening to when he was young.

Bukka White was another delta blues player whom Plant was listening to when he was young.

 

Robert Johnson

Legends of Robert Johnson selling his soul to the devil at the crossroads are still popular today.  Plant says that hearing Robert Johnson at 14 brought him into the world of blues.

Legends of Robert Johnson selling his soul to the devil at the crossroads are still popular today. Plant says that hearing Robert Johnson at 14 brought him into the world of blues.

 

Muddy Waters

Muddy Waters was a very influential blues player.  Jimmy has name dropped him many times when talking about influences.

Muddy Waters was a very influential blues player. Jimmy has name dropped him many times when talking about influences.

Umm Kulthum

Umm Kulthum was an Egyptian singer whom Plant was a huge fan of.

Umm Kulthum was an Egyptian singer whom Plant was a huge fan of.

Charles Mingus

Charles Mingus was a jazz bassist and pianist and band leader. John Paul Jones names him as an influence.

Charles Mingus was a jazz bassist and pianist and band leader. John Paul Jones names him as an influence.

Ray Brown

 
Ray Brown was a jazz bassist named as an influence by John Paul Jones.

Ray Brown was a jazz bassist named as an influence by John Paul Jones.

 

John Coltrane

 
John Coltrane was a important jazz sax player and composer.  John Paul Jones named him as an influence.

John Coltrane was a important jazz sax player and composer. John Paul Jones named him as an influence.

 

Gene Krupa

Gene Krupa was a big band / swing drummer and very influential to many.  Bonham’s brother said that Gene was drum god to John.

Gene Krupa was a big band / swing drummer and very influential to many. Bonham’s brother said that Gene was drum god to John.

Art Blakey

Art Blakey was a jazz drummer who is said to be an influence on Bonham.

Art Blakey was a jazz drummer who is said to be an influence on Bonham.

Elmore James

Elmore James was an influential blues player named by Jimmy.

Elmore James was an influential blues player named by Jimmy.

Little Richard was a pioneer of rock n roll music.  John Paul Jones names him as an influence and one of the people who got him into soul which he is a big fan of.

Little Richard was a pioneer of rock n roll music. John Paul Jones names him as an influence and one of the people who got him into soul which he is a big fan of.

Miles Davis

Miles Davis was an important jazz trumpeter, composer, and band leader.  John Paul Jones named him as an influence.

Miles Davis was an important jazz trumpeter, composer, and band leader. John Paul Jones named him as an influence.

Louis Bellson was a big band swing player.  He is said to have been an influence on Bonham.

Louis Bellson was a big band swing player. He is said to have been an influence on Bonham.

Buddy Rich

Buddy Rich is was a big band / swing drummer and legend.  It is said that he was an influence on Bonham

Buddy Rich is was a big band / swing drummer and legend. It is said that he was an influence on Bonham

Max Roach

Max Roach was a jazz drummer and composer.  He is said to be one of Bonham’s influences.

Max Roach was a jazz drummer and composer. He is said to be one of Bonham’s influences.

Elvis was a rock n roll icon that has is easily one of the biggest names in music. Jimmy says he first wanted to start playing music after hearing “Baby, Let’s Play House”.

Elvis was a rock n roll icon that has is easily one of the biggest names in music. Jimmy says he first wanted to start playing music after hearing “Baby, Let’s Play House”.

Scotty Moore

Most well known for his time playing with Elvis, Scotty Moore was a big influence on Jimmy.

Most well known for his time playing with Elvis, Scotty Moore was a big influence on Jimmy.

Lonnie Donegan

Lonnie Donegan was a skiffle player and was a big influence on Jimmy to start playing.

Lonnie Donegan was a skiffle player and was a big influence on Jimmy to start playing.

Chuck Berry

The most quintessential rock n roll singer/guitarist, Chuck Berry.  Jimmy named him as an influence.

The most quintessential rock n roll singer/guitarist, Chuck Berry. Jimmy named him as an influence.

Gene Vincent

Gene Vincent was a rockabilly / rock n roll guitarist/singer.  Jimmy mentions him as one of the things he bounded with Jeff Beck over.

Gene Vincent was a rockabilly / rock n roll guitarist/singer. Jimmy mentions him as one of the things he bounded with Jeff Beck over.

On the country side of Rock n roll there were The Everly Brothers. John Paul Jones names them an influence.

On the country side of Rock n roll there were The Everly Brothers. John Paul Jones names them an influence.

James Jamerson was the bass player behind most of the Motown hits.  John Paul Jones named him as one of his big influences.

James Jamerson was the bass player behind most of the Motown hits. John Paul Jones named him as one of his big influences.

Bill Evans

Bill Evans was a jazz pianist named as an influence by John Paul Jones.

Bill Evans was a jazz pianist named as an influence by John Paul Jones.

James Burton

James Burton was a rock n roll guitarist playing with the likes of Elvis and Rick Nelson.  Jimmy talks about bounding with Jeff beck over James Burton’s solos with Rick Nelson.

James Burton was a rock n roll guitarist playing with the likes of Elvis and Rick Nelson. Jimmy talks about bounding with Jeff beck over James Burton’s solos with Rick Nelson.

Rick Nelson or Ricky Nelson was a rock n roll teen idol.  He is one that Jimmy remembers bounding with Jeff Beck over.

Rick Nelson or Ricky Nelson was a rock n roll teen idol. He is one that Jimmy remembers bounding with Jeff Beck over.

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Piano player and singer Ray Charles was a versatile musician. John Paul Jones names him as an influence and one of the people who got him into soul which he is a big fan of.

Piano player and singer Ray Charles was a versatile musician. John Paul Jones names him as an influence and one of the people who got him into soul which he is a big fan of.

Scott LaFaro

Scott LaFaro was a jazz bassist most known for his work with the Bill Evens Trio.  John Paul Jones named him as an influence.

Scott LaFaro was a jazz bassist most known for his work with the Bill Evens Trio. John Paul Jones named him as an influence.

Gil Evans

Gil Evans was a jazz pianist, arranger, composer, and band leader.  John Paul Jones named him as an influence.

Gil Evans was a jazz pianist, arranger, composer, and band leader. John Paul Jones named him as an influence.

Again on the more country side of Rock n roll there was Jerry Lee Lewis who was an influence on John Paul Jones.

Again on the more country side of Rock n roll there was Jerry Lee Lewis who was an influence on John Paul Jones.

One of the great soul and funk singers, Plant remembers saving up to order a James Brown record when he was 13 and how “unbelievable” he was.

One of the great soul and funk singers, Plant remembers saving up to order a James Brown record when he was 13 and how “unbelievable” he was.

Marvin Gaye

Marvin Gaye, known as the prince of Motown was named by John Paul Jones as an influence on his writing.

Marvin Gaye, known as the prince of Motown was named by John Paul Jones as an influence on his writing.

Smokey Robinson

Smokey Robinson was a motown / soul singer.  Plant talks about him being an influence when he was young.

Smokey Robinson was a motown / soul singer. Plant talks about him being an influence when he was young.

Otis Redding

Otis Redding is considered one of the greats of Soul.  John Paul Jones named him as an influence on his writing.

Otis Redding is considered one of the greats of Soul. John Paul Jones named him as an influence on his writing.

Donald "Duck" Dunn

Donald "Duck" Dunn was a session player known for his work with Otis Redding and Booker T. & the M.G.'s.  John Paul Jones named him as an influence.

Donald "Duck" Dunn was a session player known for his work with Otis Redding and Booker T. & the M.G.'s. John Paul Jones named him as an influence.

Jimi Hendrix was revolutionary.  John Paul Jones named him as an influence despite not playing guitar himself.

Jimi Hendrix was revolutionary. John Paul Jones named him as an influence despite not playing guitar himself.

Ginger Baker

Ginger Baker is best known for his work with Cream.  It has been said he was an influence on Bonham.

Ginger Baker is best known for his work with Cream. It has been said he was an influence on Bonham.

Jimmy was learned guitar by playing along with records. He eventually learned how to read music. He pretty much took influence from any guitar playing he heard at the time but a bit more from the blues.

Jimmy mentions some guitar players the he likely had great respect for but didn’t specifically name them as influences: Classical player Segovia and Julian Bream, flamenco player Manitas de Plata, and gypsy jazz player Django Reinhardt.

Jimmy is often said to have “borrowed” things from other guitar players… some might call it stealing. Among the guitarists he is accused of ripping off are folk/jazz guitarist Bert Jansch for “Black Mountain Slide”. Over the years writing credits have been changed in order to reflect many of these songs.

John Paul Jones grew up with his dad who was a pianist and trumpeter who was into blues, jazz, and Latin music and was exposed to all of that. He like Page, was interested in many different styles of playing and not afraid to mix things up.

Plant in one interview talks about wanting his voice to be a tenor sax. He says he wanted to be Coleman Hawkins and Dexter Gordon.

Bonham was said to have favorite bands including Johnny Kidd & The Pirates, The Hollies and The Graham Bond Organisation.

Bands influenced by Led Zeppelin!

As this project advances, bands will be added here… there are many!

Although older than Zeppelin, Deep Purple changed to a harder sound after hearing them.

Although older than Zeppelin, Deep Purple changed to a harder sound after hearing them.

Hugely inspirational hard rockers.

Hugely inspirational hard rockers.

Hard Rock and Heavy Metal legends.

Hard Rock and Heavy Metal legends.

The Metal Gods themselves.

The Metal Gods themselves.

Heavy Metal / Hard Rock Legends

Heavy Metal / Hard Rock Legends

 
NWOBHM

NWOBHM

 
Revolutionary Hard Rock

Revolutionary Hard Rock

Influential NWOBHM

Influential NWOBHM

One of the most influential metal bands!

One of the most influential metal bands!

Members of Ozzy’s band were influenced.

Members of Ozzy’s band were influenced.

NWOBHM with a lot of Speed Metal

NWOBHM with a lot of Speed Metal

Industrial Metal Pioneers

Industrial Metal Pioneers

Metal Masters

The fathers of Thrash

The fathers of Thrash

Bay Area Heavy Metal

Bay Area Heavy Metal

American Heavy Metal

American Heavy Metal

The Legendary Ronnie James Dio.

The Legendary Ronnie James Dio.

Influential Thrash Masters

Influential Thrash Masters

German heavy/power metal masters.

German heavy/power metal masters.

Progressive Metal Pioneers

Progressive Metal Pioneers

German fathers of Power Metal

German fathers of Power Metal

Cheesy Christian Metal.

Cheesy Christian Metal.

German Speed, Power, and more

German Speed, Power, and more

Thrash Legends.

Thrash Legends.

Classic Death Metal

Bay Area Thrashers

Bay Area Thrashers

The Fathers of Sludge

The Fathers of Sludge

Grindcore and Melodic Death pioneers

Grindcore and Melodic Death pioneers

Fathers of Groove

Fathers of Groove

Taking Black Metal in a progressive direction.

Taking Black Metal in a progressive direction.

Alternative Metal

Alternative Metal

Waving the flag of groove in the modern era.

Waving the flag of groove in the modern era.

Progressive Groove

Progressive Groove

Forerunners of New Wave Thrash

Forerunners of New Wave Thrash

Progressive Death

Progressive Death

Sources:

https://cosmicmagazine.com.au/news/led-zeppelins-jimmy-page-reveals-his-greatest-musical-influence-in-unearthed-1977-interview/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9AAEdFlRkc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2DmA6etwpQ
http://ledzepnews.com/2018/05/06/heres-everything-that-jimmy-page-said-about-his-extraordinary-friend-jeff-beck-in-a-new-documentary/
http://www.oldbuckeye.com/prox/jazz.html
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/bert-jansch-rememered-neil-young-jimmy-page-tales/
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/led-zeppelins-10-boldest-rip-offs-223419/
https://www.vintageguitar.com/2898/john-paul-jones/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-pDYq2VpOQ
https://cosmicmagazine.com.au/news/robert-plant-discusses-little-known-led-zeppelin-influence-in-new-podcast/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/rockandpopfeatures/10400729/Robert-Plant-interview-Everyone-feels-the-blues-from-time-to-time.html
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129993435
http://johnbonham.co.uk/biography/biography.html